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Lillie (or Lily) Langtry 릴리 랑트리. The Hateful Eight 헤이트풀8. 화이트 스트라이프. 사과 꽃The White Stripes - Apple Blossom

VIS VITALIS 2020. 4. 14. 23:10

Samuel L. Jackson, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Michael Madsen, Tim Roth, Kurt Russell, Bruce Dern, Demián Bichir, and Walton Goggins in The Hateful Eight (2015)





Emilie Charlotte Langtry (née Le Breton; October 13, 1853 – February 12, 1929), known as Lillie (or Lily) Langtry and nicknamed "The Jersey Lily", was a British-American socialite, actress and producer.

Born on the island of Jersey, upon marrying she moved to London in 1876. Her looks and personality attracted interest, commentary, and invitations from artists and society hostesses, and she was celebrated as a young woman of great beauty and charm.

By 1881, she had become an actress and starred in many plays in the UK and the United States, including She Stoops to Conquer, The Lady of Lyons, and As You Like It, eventually running her own stage production company. In later life she performed "dramatic sketches" in vaudeville. She was also known for her relationships with noblemen, including the Prince of Wales, the Earl of Shrewsbury, and Prince Louis of Battenberg. She was the subject of widespread public and media interest.





八恶人 The Hateful Eight 2015

헤이트풀8






Apple Blossom

The White Stripes



Hey little apple blossom

what seems to be the problem

all the ones you tell your troubles to

they don't really care for you


come and tell me what you're thinking

cause just when the boat is sinking

a little light is blinking

and I will come and rescue you


lots of girls walk around in tears

but that's not for you

you've been looking all around for years

for someone to tell your troubles too


come and sit with me and talk a while

let me see your pretty little smile

put your troubles in a little pile

and I will sort them out for you

I'll fall in love with you

I think I'll marry you

























“Keeping You At A Disadvantage Is 

An Advantage I Intend to Keep.”












Paroles et traduction de la chanson «Apple Blossom» par The White Stripes


Apple Blossom (Pomme En Fleur)


Hey little apple blossom

Hey petite pomme en fleur

What seems to be the problem

Quel est ton problème

All the ones you tell your troubles to

Tous ceux à qui tu as raconté tes soucis

They don't really care for you

Ne font pas vraiment attention à toi


Come and tell me what you're thinking

Viens et dis moi à quoi tu penses

'Cause just when the boat is sinking

Parce que quand le bateau est sur le point de couler

A little light is blinking

Une petite lumière scintille

And I will come and rescue you

Et j'arriverai et je te secourrai


Lots of girls walk around in tears

Beaucoup de filles marchent aux alentours en pleurs

But that's not for you

Mais ce n'est pas pour toi.

You've been looking all around for years

Tu as cherché pendant des années tout autour

For someone to tell your troubles to

Après quelqu'un a qui confier tes problèmes


Come and sit with me and talk awhile

Viens et assied toi avec moi et parle moment

Let me see your pretty little smile

Laisse moi voir ton joli petit sourire

Put your troubles in a little pile

Mets tes soucis sur un petit tas

And I will sort them out for you

Et je ferais le tri pour toi


Lots of girls walk around in tears

Beaucoup de filles marchent aux alentours en pleurs

But that's not for you

Mais ce n'est pas pour toi.

You've been looking all around for years

Tu as cherché pendant des années tout autour

For someone to tell your troubles to

Après quelqu'un a qui confier tes problèmes


Come and sit with me and talk awhile

Viens et assied toi avec moi et parle moment

Let me see your pretty little smile

Laisse moi voir ton joli petit sourire

Put your troubles in a little pile

Mets tes soucis sur un petit tas

And I will sort them out for you

Et je ferais le tri pour toi

I'll fall in love with you

Je tomberai amoureux de toi

I think I'll marry you

Et je pense que je t'épouserai













Judy says Auckland is New Zealand's biggest city. Auckland became New Zealand's largest city in the 1900s, when it surpassed Dunedin.
Judy speaks in modern New Zealand dialect, which other characters comment on. In the late 1860s, European settlement of New Zealand was too recent for that dialect to have developed.
The term "pen pal" is used early in the film. Merriam Webster says the first known use of the term was in 1938.
No African-American would've been a commissioned officer in the Union Army during the Civil War. In 1877, Henry Ossian Flipper became the first African-American to be commissioned a Second Lieutenant in the US Army. He was also the first African-American to graduate from West Point.
The word "paranoid" is used in the film. According to Merriam Webster, the first known use of the term was in 1904.
The film takes place no later than 1870. The characters mention both William F. Cody and Lily Langtry who became famous in the mid 1870s.
The dollar amounts of the bounties ($8,000, $10,000) are frequently mentioned. Assuming the story is set in the late 1860s, those amounts would be more than $200,000 today.
Standing at the metal stove , John Ruth uses the phrase "window o' opportunity". "Window" used as a limited time-slot was first used during the 1960s' Space Program.
While the director used actress Zoe Bell,a New Zealander as a "tweak" to the audience, having such a person in the film's setting really doesn't make sense based upon the timeline.

Great Britain signed the Treaty of Waitangi in 1840 and that began large scale European colonization of the islands. Even then, it was nearly the 20th century about 30 years after the setting of the film, when large numbers of people moved to the islands. It's highly doubtful that a New Zealander would have left the land for anywhere but nearby Australia or the United Kingdom, especially a single woman.
After Ruth and Warren agree to protect each other's bounties, Mannix suggests that they might want to "lie on the ground and make snow angels together". The Oxford Dictionaries have not found any use of the phrase "snow angel" earlier than the 1940s.
The movie is set no later than 1870. The piano in Minnie's Haberdashery is produced by Story & Clark, established in 1869. Judging by the "honky tonk" tone and bashed appearance, the piano has at least 20 years of wear.
The Lincoln Letter uses the word "hopefully" in the modern sense. A writer in the 1860s probably wouldn't have used it that way.

Audio/visual unsynchronised 

In the stagecoach, after John gives Daisy the beef jerky and John tells Mannix to shut up, Mannix leans over to the Major. The Major raises up his gun without cocking it, but the soundtrack plays the sound of a pistol being cocked.

Character error 

Several characters say Daisy is condemned "to be hung." The correct term is "hanged." Objects are hung, people are hanged.
Chris Mannix doesn't seem to know whether his horse was male or female. He states that *he* stepped in a gopher hole and fucked up *his* leg, then says he "had to put *her* down."
Mannix uses the word "Calvary" (hill of crucifixions) when he means "cavalry" (horse-bound army).
When Oswaldo is showing Mannix the hanging orders for the prisoner in Red Rock, Mannix hands Oswaldo his cup of coffee. While the two are talking, Oswaldo starts drinking the coffee as if it were his.

Continuity 

About 36 minutes in when Ruth's stagecoach first pulls up to Minnie's Haberdashery, Bob comes out to greet them. As he exits the haberdashery, the door closes firmly behind him with the pronounced audible "click" of a latch and stays closed. However, at this point the door had supposedly already been broken and should have required nails to stay closed.
When Major Warren and Bob leave the barn, the weather is blustery with heavy snow and the sky is completely overcast. In the next shot, when they walk to the Haberdashery, the sky is clear, the sun is coming up over the mountains, and it's not snowing.
When Joe Gage offers Six-Horse Judy some peppermint sticks, he does so with his outstretched right hand. In the reverse angle the candy is in his outstretched left hand.
When Major Marquis Warren is telling everybody else except Daisy Domergue to go next to the wall on the left side of the fireplace. Bob is seen standing next to the fireplace with his right hand resting the fireplace spade on his shoulder, but when the camera changes to show the view behind Warren, his right hand with the spade is hanging on his side when he had no time to move at all between the camera change. Warren tells Bob to join the others and he drops the spade and it lands on the right side of the fireplace. The spade changes from laying on the ground to leaning on the right side of the fireplace several times in later camera angle changes.
Oswaldo asks Gemma for jellybeans. When she comes down from the top of the ladder it takes her about 2 minutes between various shots. In other scenes, it took 10-15 seconds.
When John Ruth with Daisy falls out of the stagecoach, after Major Warren hits Daisy for spitting on his letter from Abraham Lincoln, the rifle is behind the tree and John's hat, about a foot from the tree. In the next shot, the rifle is between John and the tree in a different direction, and his hat is at least 3 feet from the tree.
In the stage coach Jennifer Leigh's teeth are notably pristine white. The best view of her pearly enamels occurs when she eats the beef jerky. Inside the "Haberdashery" her teeth have the "baked bean"/ rotten decaying appearance. They become most notable after John Ruth knocks out a couple choppers just before his demise.
When the stage first arrives at Minnie's, a long view of the barn is shown with both barn doors open. As the horses are being led to the barn there is a shot from the inside of the barn looking out and it is clear that only one barn door is open as the apex of the barn roof bisects the line of the one closed door.
John Ruth says "Here's my warrant, Oswaldo" and puts it on the table. on the next shot, the warrant has changed place and looks bent when Oswaldo grabs it, whereas it was lying flat on previous shot.
Major Warren says "May I join you, general?" and sits in front of him. The general's hands switch from being over and under the blanket between shots.

Errors in geography 

Modern residential homes are clearly visible in the background of several of large landscape shots, and in shots of the stagecoach moving.
The San Miguel Mountains of SW Colorado look like no mountain range formation in Wyoming, the supposed setting of the film. Additionally, there are trees shown in the film which grow in the San Miguel's but that would not be common (or located) in the film's Central or Northern Wyoming setting.

Factual errors 

Warren says that he and Smithers fought against each other during the Civil War at the Battle of Baton Rouge. The battle took place in 1862, African-American troops first saw combat in 1863.
Both blockhouses, the station, and the stables have clearly visible interstices between individual logs. Despite the blizzard outside, snowflakes inside the buildings fall almost perpendicular from the roof down to the floor.
Not only would Major Warren be passing as white if he fought in the Battle of Baton Rouge, nine months before the USCT were officially established, but as a cavalry major of any ethnicity he would not be there. only Union infantry artillery, and gun boats were deployed at Baton Rouge.
Given the violent reaction to the poison it was some type of anticoagulant which are all sodium based. This means it would not have survived boiling.
The handcuff key that Major Warren obtains from Domergue is from a modern set of present day manufacture handcuffs. Handcuff keys of the time of the 1870's or earlier were not as smooth or polished or thin as the one seen in this shot.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs 

When Daisy Domergue plays the guitar, she sings "Jim Jones at Botany Bay," an Australian folk song. Although this was first published in 1907, some experts believe that some versions of it were circulated orally as early as the 1830s.
Several characters mention that Major Warren was in a Confederate prison camp in West Virginia. Soon after the Civil War started, residents of Virginia counties that wanted to remain in the Union broke off from the state and became West Virginia, a key border state for the North. However, the counties south and east of Harrison County, about 2/3 of the state, remained in the Confederacy. West Virginia Confederate troops, who were still technically Virginia troops, captured Union soldiers in West Virginia battles. While West Virginia had no permanent prison camps, it had facilities to keep prisoners for a short time before they were sent on to Richmond. on November 11, 1861, future Confederate General Albert G. Jenkins of Cabell County, WV, captured over 100 Union troops in Guyandotte, and marched them through West Virginia on the way to Richmond. In, 1864 West Virginia Confederates captured Union General E.P. Scammon on the Ohio River and burned his steamer. An Ohio paper said that West Virginia was "just as well stocked with rebels both armed and unarmed as any other portion of the South."

Plot holes 

One of the reasons Samuel L. Jackson's character knows he's in walked into a trap is that Minnie passionately hates Mexicans, and even had a sign up saying no dogs or Mexicans. Hence why he is suspicious of Mexican Bob. However, when Mexican Bob arrives to the tavern in the flashback scene, Minnie shows absolutely no sign of any animosity towards him, despite being a legendary Mexican-hater.
Oswaldo Mobray asks about the Lincoln letter, stating that he understood that someone on the stagecoach had one. Major Marquis Warren, the one who owned the letter, was picked up along the way and was never supposed to have arrived with Daisy, so there's no way he could have known to ask about it.

Revealing mistakes 

Anytime we see the stagecoach in transit, the road surface has been cleared while the surrounding area is covered in deep snow. As there were no snow plows, and as the snow was falling rapidly accompanied by howling wind, there is no way the road could have been clear of snow drifts. In reality, the six horses would have labored to pull the coach through the snowstorm and the road should have been very difficult to traverse. Instead, it's clear that the road had been cleared of snow by the crew using a snowplow.
After the door is kicked in and they once again replace the board needed to hold the door closed, each nail sticks out about halfway from the boards. If the board had been kicked in, the nails would be fully seated.
The fire always burns with the same intensity, even though Bob only adds one log into the fire. It also doesn't move whenever the door is kicked in.
The lighting in the stagecoach comes from up above the windows and ceiling. When the shades are pulled down. the coach has no openings for light to shine through.
When Six-horse Judy walks in with the traveler's bags, she gingerly taps the coffee pot on the stove with her fingers to see if the coffee is ready, and finds the pot too hot to touch.Minnie walks over shortly afterward when the pot is even hotter and grabs the pot from the stove with her bare hand, announcing "Coffee's ready!"
In several shots, the overhead light at Minnie's is bright and glaring. The place was lit with candles and lanterns. No overhead light are visible, and the blizzard would keep the light to a bare minimum.
Despite the cold, John Ruth never buttons up his buffalo coat, even outside, revealing only an open jacket, thin waistcoat, and shirt underneath.
The "snow" Joe Gage tracks and allows in when he angrily enters the station does not melt and only "disappears" (leaving a bone dry floor) multiple scenes later.
Joe Gage asks about the price of, and at other times refers to, peppermint sticks. The candy shown is a jar of spearmint sticks.

Spoilers

The goof items below may give away important plot points.

Anachronisms 

Joe Gage binds his neck wound with a handkerchief in the famous Burberry beige/black/red check.The British company created that pattern as a coat lining in the 1920s-30s, and it became widespread in the 1950s.

Audio/visual unsynchronised 

1:43:46 when John Ruth vomits blood, Daisy Domergue lets out a surprised sound while her mouth is completely shut.

Continuity 

When Oswaldo shoots Mannix, the squib is released about 4 inches above his belt, meaning he was shot in the belly. In a later chapter, Mannix has been shot in the leg, about 8 inches below his belt.
Major Marquis Warren shoots General Sandy Smithers dead, leaving a bullet hole and bloodstains on his coat. In the next scene, Joe Gage and O.B. take the general's body outside the haberdashery. In the next scene, inside the haberdashery, Chris Mannix is wearing the general's coat, with no bullet holes or bloodstains.
When Sweet Dave gets stabbed in the back by Joe Gage, he leans back only once against the chair he was sitting in, leaving a small blood stain about 3 inches by 4 inches. When Warren uncovers the chair later on, we see a much larger stain with 2 layers and 4 bloodlines.
When Major Warren and Chris Mannix are holding their guns on the trapdoor waiting for Jody Domergue to give himself up, it cuts between the close-up shot and the wide shot several times. In the wide shot Chris is aiming his gun at the trapdoor, while in the close-up he's clearly aiming it off to the side at Daisy.
When Warren requests that they hang Domergue instead of shooting her, his arm changes positions in between shots.
Before Major Marquis Warren got shot at his "Johnson", his scarf is under his coat and barely seen, but in the following close-up scene the scarf is totally visible.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs 

Much is made of the fact that Minnie hates Mexicans, and would never allow them into the Haberdashery, let alone leave one in charge. However, during the Four Passengers segment Minnie does not bat an eye when introduced to Bob.This is entirely intentional. Major Marquis Warren is a skilled liar, and his aptitude for formulating a lie to get a reaction out of somebody occurs several times. Minnie did not hate Mexicans, but Bob did not correct Warren when Warren said she did. That's how Warren knew Bob had not been running Minnie's Haberdashery.
After Major Marquis Warren shoots General Sandy Smithers he then leans against a nearby table after twirling his gun around his finger and sliding it into his holster. Yet, near the end the narration after "Chapter Four: Domergue's Got a Secret", When Daisy is in frame there is an out of focus Marquis Warren who walks away after he shoots Smithers. It is Quentin Tarantino's custom to have events replay on screen and have the two different perspectives not match. This is done to illustrate the arbitrary nature of reality and people's observations of it.
Quentin Tarantino often includes blatant continuity errors in his films on purpose, in tribute to the hastily-edited Spaghetti Westerns he admired in his youth. The following discontinuities are probably intentional for this reason. - The amount of snow collected on Mannix's hat brim while waiting outside Ruth's stagecoach changes repeatedly, without him ever knocking any of it off. - After Daisy Domergue has been hanged, the position of the severed arm changes from shot to shot. - In several scenes when the stagecoach is moving at the beginning, the characters haven't changed seats but the direction it's being pulled changes and doesn't correspond to where the characters are sitting. - While Major Marquis Warren and Bob have their dialogue in the barn, a wide two shot of the characters while talking shows the barn doors closed. But when the dialogue is over and the characters leave the barn, the barn doors are already open. - After Daisy's face is sprayed with blood, the amount on it varies from the wide shot to the close-ups of her screaming. - When Warren says Minnie's rule ('No dogs, no hats and no Mexican allowed'), he puts his hat on the wall. But in the next scene he has his hat back on. - When we first see the stagecoach arriving in Chapter Five "The Four Passengers", the harnesses for the horses are connected by cables/ropes. Later when the stagecoach is outside Minnie's Haberdashery, the harnesses are connected with chains. - While riding in the stagecoach the position of Major Marquis Warren's gun changes between each wide angle and close up. From the wider angle, his gun is resting on his arm near his leg. Each close up, the gun is pointed at John Ruth's face. - Major Warren's mustache is considerably shorter during the stagecoach journey to Minnie's Haberdashery. - Throughout Chapter 3 Daisy's hair style, changes considerably from shot to shot, particularly the number of her plaits, their size and their position, and her hairstyle seems in some instances also to vary in the same scene in the different versions of the film 70 mm and digital. She also has horse braids as a sort of coronet When it comes to chapters 4 and 6 her hairstyle changes yet again in a dramatic fashion, the braids have virtually all gone, and her hair is loose and flowing down over her shoulders, but it has none of the kinks that would have been seen if she took it recently out of plaits - given that the whole film takes place over less than a day. The horse braids take time to create and also time to tease or comb out. Daisy had one hand in a cuff and she had no personal valise with a comb visible at any stage, so how did her hair change from Chapter 3 to Chapter 4 a matter of 15 minutes according to the Narrator. - During the conversation in the stagecoach in the beginning John Ruth is seen putting his pipe in the left side of his mouth. The camera cuts to another angle and the pipe is then in the right corner of his mouth. - After Daisy is punched by John, the blood around her nose often changes suddenly.
When the gang drop the bodies down into the well outside, they make a splash after they fall. Even in a blizzard, a well as deep as the one shown in the film would not freeze over.

Plot holes 

Why did Jody wait for Warren to kill Bob and expose Joe Gage as the killer? He had two revolvers and could've easily killed Warren and Mannix, and escape with Daisy.
The poisoned coffee is clearly fatal in small doses to John Ruth and O.B., yet Ruth vomits blood multiple times over Daisy's face and mouth with no after effects whatsoever.
The Domergue gang seem to know a lot about Minnie and her people despite just having arrived that day. Also, Oswaldo who poses as the hangman not only knows a whole lot about the role he is pretending to play, has a warrant and a business card to boot. It is unlikely that they had killed the real hangman and took his cards and warrant. Correction: this is heavily hinted by the plot that they DO know a lot about Red Rock, Minnie's, and they DID either capture and killed the real hangman, or Oswaldo WAS the hangman, who secretly was also part of the gang. Not a goof.

Revealing mistakes 

During the climax, Warren's revolver had 4 bullets left after shooting Bob four times (two shots from two guns). However, during the climax, Warren fires the same gun 5 times without reloading.

Warren shoots Bob the Mexican twice at a relatively close range. For the first shot the gun is pointed at Bob's abdomen, but Bob's blood comes squirting out about a foot above where the hole should have been. The gun is raised and fired at Bob's chest, but the blood squirts out about a foot below where the hole should have been.